ME: Ines has just discovered fractals, and she freaking out
IVAN: What are fractals I've heard the word before
ME: Ok...Imagine an object, like a snowflake, and you zoom in and the fractional parts of the objects are identical to the whole, infinitely.
IVAN: Ah
ME: So the closer you zoom in the more there is, like the universe see?
IVAN: Yep
ME: The inside is the outside, small is big and never ends, so she's freaking out.
IVAN: Yep, as above so below.
ME:So I says that's what poetry is.
IVAN: Yes
ME: Some math dork discovered what peeps have been drawing in mandalas for thousands of years. This shit is what art is for.
IVAN: Yep.
ME: They try use an artificial language (math) to describe what art describes: the ultimate equation to the theory for everything will be one image -like the sight of the holy grail- that will be so overwhelming and so comprehensible at first glance that the spectator dies.
IVAN: The observer sees himself: BANG!
ME: Yep! So funny the search is circular: always the same and then forgotten, so it can begin again like time - circular.
IVAN: Exactly, we drink from the cup of forgetting, so we can remember on each awakening.
ME: Yes! I think that quantum waves are tubes so the particles travel-surf back - and forward too -
only back and forward depends on a fixed point see? and there IS no fixed point anywhere and it all spins and sways like the dervishes. That is what I think.
IVAN: I think i need a drink now.
from "Conversations with Ivan Shapiro"
IVAN: What are fractals I've heard the word before
ME: Ok...Imagine an object, like a snowflake, and you zoom in and the fractional parts of the objects are identical to the whole, infinitely.
IVAN: Ah
ME: So the closer you zoom in the more there is, like the universe see?
IVAN: Yep
ME: The inside is the outside, small is big and never ends, so she's freaking out.
IVAN: Yep, as above so below.
ME:So I says that's what poetry is.
IVAN: Yes
ME: Some math dork discovered what peeps have been drawing in mandalas for thousands of years. This shit is what art is for.
IVAN: Yep.
ME: They try use an artificial language (math) to describe what art describes: the ultimate equation to the theory for everything will be one image -like the sight of the holy grail- that will be so overwhelming and so comprehensible at first glance that the spectator dies.
IVAN: The observer sees himself: BANG!
ME: Yep! So funny the search is circular: always the same and then forgotten, so it can begin again like time - circular.
IVAN: Exactly, we drink from the cup of forgetting, so we can remember on each awakening.
ME: Yes! I think that quantum waves are tubes so the particles travel-surf back - and forward too -
only back and forward depends on a fixed point see? and there IS no fixed point anywhere and it all spins and sways like the dervishes. That is what I think.
IVAN: I think i need a drink now.
from "Conversations with Ivan Shapiro"
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